Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Way of the Master is not The Way of the Master

Brief History:

[1] Way of the Master is a ministry based in the USA, started in 2002 by American actor Kirk Cameron and New Zealand-born evangelist Ray Comfort and American radio host Todd Friel.

The organization includes a TV show, radio broadcast, books, online school, small-group training courses, and a website. The ministry's logo incorporates the letters, WDJD, standing for "What Did Jesus Do?" and a reference to Mark 16:15: "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." The ministry is headquartered in Bellflower, California.

Controversial issues about Way of the Master.

Having contact Ray with no response there has been curtain issues concerning way of the master, as Ray comfort has compromised with TBN, Joyce Meyer, my e-mail to ray was sent on Tuesday, 27 May, 2008 21:50

To: "Emeal Zwayne"

Dear Ray

I was surprised to find you personally on TBN, and especially on Joyce Mayor last year, would you consider her to be a Bible based woman of God and a Bible based teacher of the word, I was wondering what your intentions were, and if your motive was to try and reform TBN from the inside?

I would like to know also how you, Todd and Kirk view Paul and Jan Crouch do you believe they are good Godly people ?

Just wondering also if you believe that TBN is truly leading people to grow in God referring also to other programs.

I sincerely look forward to a response.

In His service

Miguel Hayworth

So far I have received no response this has led me to publicly expose what Ray is doing and has done in line with scripture.

Ephesians 5:11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

To have no fellowship means we do not have association with those who are sinning against God, this is what TBN does.

Ray advertises Kirk Cameron on "Praise the Lord" program on TBN [2] and Ray's compromise with TBN's very own Joyce Meyer:

Ray Comfort on Joyce Meyer's Show

This is one of Rays compromises the scriptures teach us Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Joyce Meyer has made so many false teachings, it is always the false teachers that bring in division, it is never the people who stand for the word of God.

People may reason "Ray just wants to get the truth out no matter what." but if truth is distorted by the very people who teach us distorted teaching, the truth will never come out it just leaves people as casualties, these people promote superficial theology.

According to the scriptures 1Ti 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. The reason why in 1 tim 2:11-12 states this was because of what God said in Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This scripture amongst others concerning Gods clear underlined role of women was because of Gen 3:13 13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Eve admitted that she was deceived was the reason what in verse 16 of Genesis God instructed that a woman should be in submission to her husband, their is always clear guidelines simply because women are more susceptible to deceit as eve admitted in the garden, this is why a woman cannot be pastor.

Ray comfort indicates that he believes Joyce Meyer is a credible minister of the gospel when in fact Joyce Meyer is in rebellion to God Ray did not in anyway speak out against this wolf in sheep's clothing.

What are some of the things that Joyce Meyer teaches, in her [3] 1991 booklet, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make, an evangelistic work aimed at nonbelievers, she resounds the Word-Faith view of Christ’s atonement:

“During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there ... no plan was too extreme ... Jesus paid on the cross and in hell” (pg. 35, underlining in the original).

“God rose up from His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, ‘Let Him go.’ Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus ... He was resurrected from the dead — the first born-again man” (pg. 36, underlining in the original).

“His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserved to go. Remember in the very beginning of this, I said, ‘When you die, only your body dies. The rest of you, your soul and spirit, goes either to heaven or hell’” (ibid.).

“There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell” (ibid.).

“Jesus went to hell for you” (pg. 38, underlining in the original).

Meyer also declared on the tape that she no longer is a sinner:

“I’m going to tell you something folks, I didn’t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn’t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that’s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I’m righteous and I can’t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time ... All I was ever taught to say was, ‘I’m a poor, miserable sinner.’ I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?”

The Apostle John says, “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8). It is Christ’s righteousness imparted to us, not ours, that makes us righteous.

In spite all that she teaches Ray Comfort ignores this, Rays intentions maybe good but Ray has this problem he taints what he does, "Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but
even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."
(Titus 1:15 - 16)

Ray Comfort goes into the temple of Gods and Goddesses, for some one who claims to present the uncompromising gospel he is doing the very thing that King Solomon did in the Bible, Ray Comfort may believe that the opportunity to minister outweighed the risk and that he fully intends to speak whatever God wants him to say.

This is sinning against God, Solomon did a little compromise here and their, some times we all need to be reminded not to make the same mistake.

Stephen warns in acts 7:43.

“Yea, you took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star
of your god Remphan, figures which you made to worship
them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.”

[4] TBN is deep rooted in babylonian Mystersism this should be enough to keep away and especially over their association with Todd Bentley amongst others.

Here are photos of pagan idols from inside the TBN Studio, images are added with permission from Dr. Joseph Chambers, Paw Creek Ministries. [5]

TBN is by far a proponent for the New Age movement and Paganism mixed in to the Christian mindset, [6] Kenneth Copeland Interview "Praise-a-Thon" program on TBN [April 1988]

* Kenneth Copeland: "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is."
* Paul Crouch: "Okay."
* Kenneth Copeland: "You know everybody you ask, you say, 'Who's the biggest failure?' They say, 'Judas' Somebody else will say, 'No,! believe it was Adam.' Well, how about the devil?"
* Paul Crouch: (Sound of amazement)
* Kenneth Copeland "He's the most consistent failure.., but he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest in the whole Bible is God.. . . Wait, wait. Don't you turn that set off. You listen to us. I told you... . Now, you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn't tell something I can't prove by the Bible.

Other known issues was
[7] Dr. Martin had contacted Copeland by mail confronting him on this issue, but unfortunately his responses to Dr. Martin “were not kind or receptive.”

A short time after this statement was made here a conversation ensued with Paul Crouch (on TBN) on this very subject of Copeland's prophecy. “Were still questioning what was said about that prophecy, that prophecy never mentions the Son of God, it never said anything about the Son of God. “ (Crouch) What did it say? “It said I did not claim to be God!” that’s all it said.” (Crouch) “In other words in so many words your right nowhere in the New Testament did he literally get up and (Copeland interjects “preach and say I am God), say I AM God did he. Now I stand corrected.” (Ed. Note- It doesn't matter what Copeland thinks he did, but what did Jesus think he did.)

Knowing that TBN has made heretical teachings, false prophecies, compromised with Ecumenism (please see image of Paul Crouch and the Pope), [8], Islam and on other issues.

In 2005, 2007 and 2008 [9] at winning in Life confrence ran by Ray Comforts friend [10] the Y2K False Prophet Robb Thompson who is the senior pastor of Family Harvest Church, Robb Thompson are friends with John Bevere and his wife lisa. [11] Robb Thompson's ministry sent out invitations for speakers for the 2005 confrence, which [12] one of the speakers was Ray Comfort, Ray had shared the platform with heretical and apostate false teachers John Avanzini, Mike Murdock, Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland and Jesse Duplantis.

In 2007 Ray Comfort Shared the Platform with false heretical teachers [13] Rick Renner, Jesse Duplantis, John Avanzini abd Mike Murdock.

In 2008 at an Inspiring Excellence Conference, [Backup image, 14] Ray Comfort again shared the platform with John Avanzini, Jesse Duplantis, Mike Murdock and Rod Parsley.

Way of the Master has unrepentantly joined hands with TBN and heretical teachers, I would encourage anyone reading this to discontinue their involvement with Ray Comfort and the Way of the Master.

Article by Miguel Hayworth 2009
Director/First Plumbline Apologetics.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_of_the_Master
[2] http://www.tbn.org/about/newsletter/index.php/263.html

[3] http://www.pfo.org/wan-star.htm
[4] http://theredskywarning.blogspot.com/2008/05/todd-bentleys-angel-emma-birthed-god-tv_21.html
[5] http://www.pawcreek.org/

[6] http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1841.cfm

[7] http://www.letusreason.org/Wf26.htm
[8] TBN Paul Crouch and the Pope
[9] http://www.winninginlife.org/index.html
[10] http://apprising.org/2008/07/24/word-faith-wolf-robb-thompson-%E2%80%9Cmy-friend-ray-comfort/
[11] http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/beverequotes.html
[12] http://www.winninginlife.org/archives/ie05.htm
[13] http://www.winninginlife.org/archives/speakers/2007.htm
[14] Inspiring Excellence Conference Backup image.

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