Monday, August 27, 2012

David Wilkerson examined.

Here is a video following his ecumenical statement on Born Again Catholic Priests.

Thus sayith the Lord false prophercy that the vatican will persicute the charasmatic Roman catholics, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E2_0-67MiM&feature=channel_video_title
http://davidwilkersontoday.blogspot.com/2008_08_01_archive.html

The Lord also used my book, The Cross and the Switchblade, especially in Catholic circles. Yet, like Peter and the early church, I had to allow God to work in my heart before I could accept what was going on. I had been raised Pentecostal, and for the first time in my life I saw priests weeping with conviction, crying out to Jesus.

Soon I had evangelical preachers contending with me, demanding, “What about those Catholics’ Maryology? How can you minister to people who believe in that?” I found myself answering the same way Peter did: “I don’t know anything about Maryology. All I know is, there are hungry people in the Catholic Church. And there are true Jesus worshippers among the priests. ------>God is filling these people with his Spirit.”<---------------


I hope you can find some time looking at what various writters have said about wilkerson.



1. NO MORE GOSPEL ON TV BY 1999?

He preached this in the Solomon Church in December of 1994:


"Right now I sense in my spirit that in less than 5 years there will be no more so-called gospel television networks. They will all fall into bankruptcy and absolute ruin."
2. 1000 FIRES IN NEW YORK CITY DUE TO RACE RIOTS IN 1993?


From a prophecy of September 7, 1992:

"I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York city. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!...federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits....Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues....Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere."


Although Wilkerson set the expiration date of this prophecy himself - " Next year" (i.e. 1993), he now says that this is yet future. This is a common expedient for those who assume themselves to be prophets, moving the goal-posts, hoping that others will forget by then.

3. FINANCIAL CRASH IN 2000?

On April 15 of that year, Wilkerson prophesied this:


"For the last two years I have been crying aloud, warning all who would hear that America is receiving her last call and that judgment is at the door. I did not say this was the end of the nation, but the last call before a financial crash."
"I am writing this letter to you on Saturday, April 15, 2000. I have on my desk the headlines in yesterday's paper: "BLACK FRIDAY - BIGGEST ONE-DAY DROP IN HISTORY." The Dow fell 618 points - the Nasdaq fell 355. I do not know what is coming in the next sixty days. If the market bounces back, I can assure you it will be temporary. THE CRASH IS INEVITABLE - NOTHING CAN STOP IT."


To his credit, he admitted his mistake after the non-event, after the market instead of crashing, reached a record high on May 22 of that year:



I struggle with this man-in what power was he ministering? Did he speak out his own demise???



Deut 18



20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?



 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.



David Wilkerson's latest messages in question?

Riots in Streets David Wilkerson (of Times Square Church and the Cross and the Switchblade) is a highly regarded Bible teacher and Christian leader. And he speaks with searing clarity and forthright challenge. He has just released two messages which pick up on earlier themes of forthcoming urban chaos.

 The 'Urgent Message' (7 March, 2009) has been followed by 'A Further Word' (9 March, 2009).

Pastor Wiley Drake, a past vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention is hoping believers pay attention to Wilkerson's message.

"I have known David Wilkerson for more than 25 years as well as many of his friends and associates," said Drake. "He is a godly man and I believe he is listening to God. I encourage each Christian to read and heed what God is saying through our brother."

However others are not so sure and are questioning whether what he is saying is 'from the Lord'.

Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries is also a Biblically-literate and diligent observer of the times; and he has commented as below. It needs to be said that Prasch is well-known as having a very polemic (even harsh) style. However this does not necessarily invalidate the things he says. He has written:

The complication [regarding Wilkerson's message of 7 March, 2009] is that although having some additions, it is not new but reiterates one made in 1992 when he said it would be "soon" 17 years ago and is confusing in that it urges 30 days emergency food supply be kept on hand, but stating he has no idea of when.

The latest version of Mr. Wilkerson's prophetic prediction:

An earth-shattering calamity is about to happen," he writes. "It is going to be so frightening, we are all going to tremble - even the godliest among us." Wilkerson's vision is of fires raging through New York City. "It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires - such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago," he explains. "There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting - including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God's wrath. In Psalm 11 it is written, "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?" (WorldNetDaily)

The Original version of Mr. Wilkerson's prophecy - Sept 7, 1992:

"I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York City. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!...federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits.... Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues.... Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere."

Many prophetic voices from multiple quarters have been directed by The Holy Spirit to alert The Body of Christ of divine judgment coming on the planet generally, including on the utterly backslidden Protestant Democracies not excluding the USA due to the genocidal proportions of non therapeutic abortion. Britain and Europe however are even more post Judeo Christian and Neo Pagan than the USA, and incipient persecution of the true church and growing anti Semitism and anti Zionism, (both factors in divine judgment) are more acute. More importantly, scripture foretells a coming judgment of God on the Moslem world and unbelieving Israel is bound for 'The Time of Jacob's Trouble'.

We certainly do not deny David Wilkerson's good intentions, nor can we deny that God has spoken through him in the past in the prophetic realm with accuracy. Additionally, Hebrew prophets like Jeremiah, Joel and Isaiah warned of judgments decades before they transpired.

There are however concerns that lead us to urge caution in testing Mr. Wilkerson's predictions as we commanded to test prophecy in 1 Corinthians 14, and we are warned of those predicting things in a time specific manner that fail to transpire in Deuteronomy 18 & Jeremiah 28 where we have a list of biblically proven false prophets such as Paul Cain, Rick Joyner, Benny Hinn, Cindy Jacobs, Pat Robertson, and Kenneth Copeland.

In fairness, Mr. Wilkerson set no date, but the question automatically arises:

* "Why then are 30 days food specified"?
* Also, how soon was soon in 1992?

Had Mr. Wilkerson said 'soon' and then said to store up 30 days food supply, it would make sense. Instead, his latest prediction states flatly he has no time frame and does not say "soon" as he did with the same prediction in 1992.

Biblical prophets gave clear signals. Store up 30 days food supply from when? Surely there must be clarification if this is from God.

Mr. Wilkerson discredited himself and his ministry in his shameful and stupid visit several years ago to the UK, and this has made many British Christians who had admired him in times past skeptical, not of his integrity, but of his credibility.

After denouncing the kind of 'laughing & drunken' counterfeit revivals associated with the Pensacola and Toronto fiascoes in his excellent recording "Reproach On The Solemn Assembly", in a direct, and some would say hypocritical contradiction of his own warnings, Mr. Wilkerson rejected solid warnings and accepted a number of engagements to speak many of the most lunatic fringe churches that continued promoting these very deceptions. One church he spoke at in The English Midlands promoted Benny Hinn only one month later.

Mr. Wilkerson then began defending the wolves in sheep's clothing and criticized their opponents who warned the sheep from them. Mr. Wilkerson then went to London to a church that followed the Toronto Experience and Paul Cain (the confessed homosexual and alcoholic false prophet and mentor of Todd Bentley) to deliver one of the most utterly ridiculous, completely irresponsible, and totally unbiblical teachings imaginable.

With no regard to the exegetical context, Mr. Wilkerson invented the unbiblical doctrine of 'feeding Jesus' (Jesus Himself said that His food is to do the will of The One who sent Him) and essentially mindlessly blabbed out a line of biblically un-founded rubbish in its purest form.

We are warned not to sharply rebuke an older man, and we do not wish to. However, his teaching was a barrage of silly unscriptural junk not supported by the cited text in context and not of God. This however was the prelude to his supreme betrayal of those who trusted him.

Mr. Wilkerson spoke of being on the ground laughing unable to get up because God's Hand was on him. The Fruit of The Spirit is 'Self Control' (ekreitei) not the lack if it. The fact that he 'could not get up' proves it was not God's Hand that was upon him. The Word of God teaches the very antithesis.

For a respected brother of his stature to preach one thing but do the very thing he preached against was a colossal act of hypocrisy. It was a huge let down. It would have been better had he never come to Great Britain. His visit has had no enduring positive impact. Ever since Mr. Wilkerson's indefensible antics in Britain, we have not been able to trust him or respect his judgment or discernment to the degree we once did. We do not attack his integrity but we simply cannot exercise the confidence in him in The Lord we so much did at one time.

Again, he is a man of God but none of us is perfect. He may be right but the prophecy is so nebulous how can we know? Why does he say something 17 years ago saying it would be soon, but now say store up 30 days provision yet saying he does not know for when? It is very unclear and the source of the prophecy no longer commands the credibility that he once did.

His nonsense in Britain was an idiotic disgrace. We just do not know if he is any longer reliable or not. Yet, we are not against him personally and we again recognize that God has indeed used him including prophetically. Our simple advice is to weigh his warning carefully. We want God to bless David Wilkerson and we still esteem his overall legacy. However, in the UK he sadly tainted it.

Having said that, without any reference to David Wilkerson, the scriptures generally point to a global crisis socially, economically, strategically, and politically with a coming chaos heralding the wrath of God. Many godly Christians likewise echo similar warnings. God's judgment is coming and to a degree has already come. This no bible based praying Christian can possibly deny.

In Jesus,
Jacob Prasch

David Wilkerson
False Prophecies & Unscriptural Teaching

I have a hard time writing about David Wilkerson for two reasons:

1. He is a mixed bag. Some of his sermons and writings have a lot of good points.
2. His book, "The Vision" is the one that I had just finished reading when I first turned to Christianity. This was in 1975, in my bedroom in the village of Langenselbold, West Germany. So, for the longest time it was hard for me to be impartial. Yet when assessing teachings and teachers of our faith, we need to hold them to the same Biblical standard (Acts 17:11).

This article will look at David Wilkerson's prophecies and teachings. After we have seen examples, we can make conclusions based on our open-Bible policy.

PROPHECIES

1. NO MORE GOSPEL ON TV BY 1999?

He preached this in the Solomon Church in December of 1994:

    "Right now I sense in my spirit that in less than 5 years there will be no more so-called gospel television networks. They will all fall into bankruptcy and absolute ruin."
    (Solomon Church Dec. 12, 1994)

2. 1000 FIRES IN NEW YORK CITY DUE TO RACE RIOTS IN 1993?

From a prophecy of September 7, 1992:

    "I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York city. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!...federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits....Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues....Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere." (Sept. 7, 1992)

Although Wilkerson set the expiration date of this prophecy himself - " Next year" (i.e. 1993), he now says that this is yet future. This is a common expedient for those who assume themselves to be prophets, moving the goal-posts, hoping that others will forget by then.

3. FINANCIAL CRASH IN 2000?

On April 15 of that year, Wilkerson prophesied this:

    "For the last two years I have been crying aloud, warning all who would hear that America is receiving her last call and that judgment is at the door. I did not say this was the end of the nation, but the last call before a financial crash."

    "I am writing this letter to you on Saturday, April 15, 2000. I have on my desk the headlines in yesterday's paper: "BLACK FRIDAY - BIGGEST ONE-DAY DROP IN HISTORY." The Dow fell 618 points - the Nasdaq fell 355. I do not know what is coming in the next sixty days. If the market bounces back, I can assure you it will be temporary. THE CRASH IS INEVITABLE - NOTHING CAN STOP IT."

To his credit, he admitted his mistake after the non-event, after the market instead of crashing, reached a record high on May 22 of that year:

    "In prayer, I have told the Lord I am ready at any time to confess I am wrong - that I must have spoken from my own fears or that I have spoken unadvisedly. Recently, when the market reached record highs, I wondered if those calling me a false prophet were right."

He admits that he was motivated by fears when he gave this warning. I am not advocating that we kick a man when he is down, or that none of us are human. It is good that he admitted his mistake. But let me ask you this: When times get rougher than they are now, do you want to consult a prophet/teacher who is motivated by fears the next time he says "Thus says the Lord". I don't. We need to tear our eyes and hearts away from all authority figures and look to the Bible. If we listen to teachers and preachers, it must be the same way that the Bereans listened to Paul and Silas - with open Bibles and a determination to use them intelligently. In my mind, Wilkerson has already lost credibility by his mis-prophesying.

TEACHINGS

1. TWO PENTECOSTS

    "God's last-day church ...will be even greater than that [the first-century church,] ... mightier, stronger, and even GREATER revelation of Jesus. A greater unction from the Spirit than ever, GREATER EVEN THAN PENTECOST....As I see it, the gospel of Jesus Christ has not been fully preached in this generation!"
    (God's Vision for the Last Day Church 5-23-94)

There are plenty of verses that tell us that this just isn't so. In the last of the last days we will face ever greater apostasy and confusion. To expect a mighty revival is to set yourself up for major deception.

2. SUFFERING GOSPEL

This is a hard aspect to write about because a lot of this is subjective. You may read this and say - "So what?" In fact I weeded out a lot here that I could not substantiate to my satisfaction. At any rate, this is where Hannah Hurnard comes in. Personally, I see a lot of her "suffering is the way to heaven" teaching influencing Dave Wilkerson. In his book "Hungry for more of Jesus", he says that personal suffering and cleansing is the way "we win His eternal Love" and "win His heart." But this is not Scriptural. We can never win God's heart. We love Him only because He first loved us (1st John 4:10, 19). There was nothing in any of us that could have made God choose any of us over anyone else. It is true that Peter says that if we suffer according to the will of God we glorify Him (See 1st Peter 4 as well as 2:18- 25). But this does not win His love for us. It is only our reasonable service. It is an outworking of what God has worked in us. It is nothing less than Christ being formed in us, our sanctification.

This has been a kind of incomplete appraisal of Dave Wilkerson. Hopefully it is enough to give us a good view of the man. I don't put him in the same class as Hannah Hurnard, or as some of the others I plan to write about. But I believe that he has greatly deviated from where he started out. I felt he was worth writing about for this reason.

I am thankful for the continued feedback I receive on this article. Be assured that I consider all information given and modify my writing accordingly. I understand that, because we are to speak for the truth, these tough issues must not be ignored. On the other hand, incorrect zeal for the truth causes us (certainly has caused me in the past) to write more scathingly than is warranted. Please pray for me that, especially writing about those who name the name of Christ, that I treat firmly yet fairly. We will all stand before the Bema.

Other info can be found here

http://www.cephas-library.com/evanelists_a_wilkerson_conversation.html

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/the-joash-syndrome

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/usa/latest-david-wilkerson-prophetic-prediction-is-it-new



Thank you for contacting us concerning David Wilkerson.  For many years D.W. has been recognised as one of the world's most forthright preachers on doctrinal purity and a champion of orthodoxy amongst Bible based preachers across ther world.  There have been concerns raised about some of his latest teachings which have caused a number of ministries to flag up D.W.

His endorsement of "Slaying in the Spirit" and that not long ago D.W. came to UK and preached at a conference where he introduced a doctrine he described as being "revealed" to him by revelation from God, which he calls "Feeding Christ".

This is a very strange doctrine whereby we feed Christ by "winning souls"!  It is found nowhere in the Scriptures, which can be our ONLY basis for doctrine--not "direct revelation" which places this particular doctrine in the area of Extra-Biblical" and thus false!

His "Prophecy" concerning New York being "engulfed in flames":
http://www.prophecynews.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1149&Itemid=2

For more info please see the following links:

http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/4750     (here you can listen to the audio)

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/the-joash-syndrome

http://blog.thewaycf.com/2009/03/john-piper-to-david-wilkerson-stick.html

http://blog.thewaycf.com/2009/03/david-wilkerson-is-this-true-word-from.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thewaycf+%28Living+in+The+Way%29

http://home.i-plus.net/thorpe/Zion/Mt.Zion.htm


Latest David Wilkerson Prophetic Prediction - Is It New?

MORIEL MINISTRIES - By James Jacob Prasch - March 10, 2009
Moriel and Jacob Prasch have received multiple inquiries regarding the issuance of a prophetic prediction by David Wilkerson dated March 7, 2009.

The complication is that although having some additions, it is not new but reiterates one made in 1992 when he said it would be "soon" 17 years ago and is confusing in that it urges 30 days emergency food supply be kept on hand, but stating he has no idea of when.

The latest version of Mr. Wilkerson's prophetic prediction:


An earth-shattering calamity is about to happen," he writes. "It is going to be so frightening, we are all going to tremble - even the godliest among us." Wilkerson's vision is of fires raging through New York City. "It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires - such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago," he explains. "There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting - including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God's wrath. In Psalm 11 it is written, "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?" (WorldNetDaily)


The Original version of Mr. Wilkerson's prophecy - Sept 7, 1992:


"I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York City. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!...federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits.... Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues.... Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere."


Many prophetic voices from multiple quarters have been directed by The Holy Spirit to alert The Body of Christ of divine judgment coming on the planet generally, including on the utterly backslidden Protestant Democracies not excluding the USA due to the genocidal proportions of non therapeutic abortion. Britain and Europe however are even more post Judeo Christian and Neo Pagan than the USA, and incipient persecution of the true church and growing anti Semitism and anti Zionism, (both factors in divine judgment) are more acute. More importantly, scripture foretells a coming judgment of God on the Moslem world and unbelieving Israel is bound for 'The Time of Jacob's Trouble'.

We certainly do not deny David Wilkerson's good intentions, nor can we deny that God has spoken through him in the past in the prophetic realm with accuracy. Additionally, Hebrew prophets like Jeremiah, Joel and Isaiah warned of judgments decades before they transpired.

There are however concerns that lead us to urge caution in testing Mr. Wilkerson's predictions as we commanded to test prophecy in 1 Corinthians 14, and we are warned of those predicting things in a time specific manner that fail to transpire in Deuteronomy 18 & Jeremiah 28 where we have a list of biblically proven false prophets such as Paul Cain, Rick Joyner, Benny Hinn, Cindy Jacobs, Pat Robertson, and Kenneth Copeland.

In fairness, Mr. Wilkerson set no date, but the question automatically arises:

  • "Why then are 30 days food specified"?
  • Also, how soon was soon in 1992?

Had Mr. Wilkerson said 'soon' and then said to store up 30 days food supply, it would make sense. Instead, his latest prediction states flatly he has no time frame and does not say "soon" as he did with the same prediction in 1992.

Biblical prophets gave clear signals. Store up 30 days food supply from when? Surely there must be clarification if this is from God.

Mr. Wilkerson discredited himself and his ministry in his shameful and stupid visit several years ago to the UK, and this has made many British Christians who had admired him in times past skeptical, not of his integrity, but of his credibility.

After denouncing the kind of 'laughing & drunken' counterfeit revivals associated with the Pensacola and Toronto fiascoes in his excellent recording "Reproach On The Solemn Assembly", in a direct, and some would say hypocritical contradiction of his own warnings, Mr. Wilkerson rejected solid warnings and accepted a number of engagements to speak many of the most lunatic fringe churches that continued promoting these very deceptions. One church he spoke at in The English Midlands promoted Benny Hinn only one month later.

Mr. Wilkerson then began defending the wolves in sheep's clothing and criticized their opponents who warned the sheep from them. Mr. Wilkerson then went to London to a church that followed the Toronto Experience and Paul Cain (the confessed homosexual and alcoholic false prophet and mentor of Todd Bentley) to deliver one of the most utterly ridiculous, completely irresponsible, and totally unbiblical teachings imaginable.

With no regard to the exegetical context, Mr. Wilkerson invented the unbiblical doctrine of 'feeding Jesus' (Jesus Himself said that His food is to do the will of The One who sent Him) and essentially mindlessly blabbed out a line of biblically un-founded rubbish in its purest form.

We are warned not to sharply rebuke an older man, and we do not wish to. However, his teaching was a barrage of silly unscriptural junk not supported by the cited text in context and not of God. This however was the prelude to his supreme betrayal of those who trusted him.

Mr. Wilkerson spoke of being on the ground laughing unable to get up because God's Hand was on him. The Fruit of The Spirit is 'Self Control' (ekreitei) not the lack if it. The fact that he 'could not get up' proves it was not God's Hand that was upon him. The Word of God teaches the very antithesis.

For a respected brother of his stature to preach one thing but do the very thing he preached against was a colossal act of hypocrisy. It was a huge let down. It would have been better had he never come to Great Britain. His visit has had no enduring positive impact. Ever since Mr. Wilkerson's indefensible antics in Britain, we have not been able to trust him or respect his judgment or discernment to the degree we once did. We do not attack his integrity but we simply cannot exercise the confidence in him in The Lord we so much did at one time.

Again, he is a man of God but none of us is perfect. He may be right but the prophecy is so nebulous how can we know? Why does he say something 17 years ago saying it would be soon, but now say store up 30 days provision yet saying he does not know for when? It is very unclear and the source of the prophecy no longer commands the credibility that he once did.

His nonsense in Britain was an idiotic disgrace. We just do not know if he is any longer reliable or not. Yet, we are not against him personally and we again recognize that God has indeed used him including prophetically. Our simple advice is to weigh his warning carefully. We want God to bless David Wilkerson and we still esteem his overall legacy. However, in the UK he sadly tainted it.

Having said that, without any reference to David Wilkerson, the scriptures generally point to a global crisis socially, economically, strategically, and politically with a coming chaos heralding the wrath of God. Many godly Christians likewise echo similar warnings. God's judgment is coming and to a degree has already come. This no bible based praying Christian can possibly deny.

On this note, we would point our readers to the following article by our friend Brother Paul McGuire.

In Jesus,
Jacob Prasch

(Philippians 1:6)


David Wilkerson's Prophecy of Judgment
PAUL MCGUIRE.com - By Paul McGuire

On March 7, 2009 David Wilkerson issued a strong prophetic warning of impending judgment upon America and the world.  Wilkerson said,  "AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE - EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.



"For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires-such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.

"There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting-including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God's wrath."


In today's "seeker sensitive' church world those words may be an affront to the Evangelical Church's god, who is not the Biblical God.  The Old Testament prophets, the Apostle Paul, the Apostle John and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself were not "seeker sensitive."  They told the truth!  Using Jesus Christ, the Apostles and the Old Testament prophets as God's standard, the seeker sensitive model could be characterized as false prophecy.

Some Bible teacher's, who teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which I believe the Bible teaches, may have difficulty with David Wilkerson's prophecy because at face-value it appears to describe events that would occur during the seven year Tribulation Period.  However, I would like to point out two things.

First, there is nothing in the Old Testament or New Testament that states that God cannot allow judgment prior to the Tribulation Period.  History is filled with examples, of what may have been God's judgment on a nation or an individual after the birth of the Church or what is commonly referred to as the "Church Age."  It is a clear that "the time of Jacob's trouble" begins with the Rapture of the Church and the revealing of the Antichrist.  But, judgment has and can occur before that time period.  The difference is that the judgment and wrath of God during the seven year Tribulation Period begins with the Church of Jesus Christ being removed from the earth and the man of sin or the Antichrist is revealed.

Clearly, when one reads David Wilkerson's vision of judgment and his word's, it appears to reflect David Wilkerson's Post-Tribulation viewpoint.  For example, Wilkerson writes,  "In Psalm 11:6, David warns, 'Upon the wicked he will rain snares (coals of fire)...fire...burning wind...will be the portion of their cup.' Why? David answered, 'Because the Lord is righteous' (v. 7). This is a righteous judgment-just as in the judgments of Sodom and in Noah's generation."  These words indicate a Post-Tribulation viewpoint. However, if Wilkerson's vision is from the Lord none of the things Wilkerson says necessarily have to occur after the seven-year Tribulation Period begins or we are on the verge of the Rapture immediately before the Tribulation Period begins.  I am not saying this with certainty as to the date of the "Rapture," as the Bible warns against specific date setting.

Obviously, we cannot equate David Wilkerson's vision at the same level as the scripture.  David Wilkerson has had earlier visions which did not seem to come true exactly as he saw them.  Yet, many of the things he saw did come true.  Some would raise the argument that if David Wilkerson's prophecy is not 100% accurate that he is not truly a Biblical prophet.  There is no question that in the Old Testament, a prophet could be stoned to death for not being 100% accurate.  However, there are many faithful leaders in the Body of Christ who are alive today who have missed God's timing or who have gotten certain things wrong.  Yet, they remain faithful men of God.  Again, the question could be legitimately raised, "Your argument is on a slippery slope theologically." In the strictest sense of interpretation that challenge is legitimate.  That is why no man, vision or experience, including the opinions of this author can be put on the same level of scripture.

However, what if God did reveal something to David Wilkerson?  What if, for example, what he saw was a consequence of an Israeli strike against Iran where computer guided missiles from Russia and other nations were launched.  Intelligence experts are aware of the fact that there are thousands of missiles aimed at major U.S. cities and vice versa that are on a hair-trigger alert.  What if Iran attacked Israel and that action precipitated a nuclear missile exchange through super-powers like Russia, China, Germany, Britain and the U.S. or Russian vessels armed with nukes traveling through the Panama Canal or off the coast of Venezuela or Cuba? What if an act of terrorism such as an EMP or Electronic Pulse Weapon crashed the power grid and U.S. system?  Clearly, riots would occur and cities would burn.  Or the possibility of an unexpected asteroid hit?  The possibilities are endless.  In addition, we have the theological debate among those who hold to a Pre-Tribulation position of an Ezekiel 38 scenario taking place before the Tribulation Period. I am not here to be an apologist for David Wilkerson, but I am suggesting that his vision does not necessarily conflict with the prophetic time table.

In the final analysis, David Wilkerson's prophetic warning should be heeded.  It does not mean that the Tribulation Period has begun, even though Wilkerson probably believes that.  The point is that David Wilkerson had a long-term track record of being a strong and faithful preacher of the Word of God.  He has challenged apostasy and false prophecy for years.  At every level, David Wilkerson's character is one of a true Biblical leader in a day where apostasy is epidemic.  I for one take David Wilkerson's prophecy soberly.  I do not put it at the same level as the Scripture and I do so, recognizing the fallibility of even the best of Christian leaders.  But beginning to be prepared both spiritually practically is prudent.  The American Church and much of the Church in Europe is the Laodecian Church described by Jesus Christ in the Book of Revelation.  After 911, the Church continued to slumber and even in the midst of global economic crisis the modern Laodecian Church refuses to consider the real possibility that Christ could return and Israel is our major prophetic sign.

Without question we are in the last days and Israel is God's prophetic time clock.  Iran is a threat to Israel's very existence.  Although, the Church and what Henry Kissinger recently called, "the new world order" trifles with Israel's existence and right to the land, God does not.  Isn't it interesting that Wilkerson issue's his warning as the threat to Israel is at the critical state.  I don't know about you, but I am going to seek the face of God and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.  I will not be headed to the hills in a camouflage outfit, but I will do what the Lord has commanded us to do which is "occupy until I come." Ultimately, my faith is in the Word of God and not the prophecy of any man.

Paul McGuire is the author of 16 books on prophecy including "The Day The Dollar Died."  Paul is a conference speaker and a  professor at the King's College & Seminary.  paulmcguire.com

Original Report



Follow-Up Word by David Wilkerson

Concerning His Latest Prophetic Prediction
DAVID WILKERSON TODAY - Posted by David Wilkerson on March 9, 2009

"If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do?"
Recently I felt compelled to send out an URGENT message warning of an impending great calamity - such that will cause even God's elect to tremble.

One Bishop asked, "Is there no further word: How should the righteous respond to such a word?"

I can only answer by sharing what the Holy Spirit is speaking to my own heart and what I am to do. I shared that I was led in a practical way to lay aside a month's supply of food - because I have witnessed the panic in the wake of terrorism. That has to be a personal word for every individual.

This is what I hear the Holy Spirit speaking to my heart concerning my own spiritual response to impending calamity. It is simply this -STAND STILL AND SEE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.

"And Moses said to the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which he will show you today...The Lord shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace" (Exodus 14:13-14).
This is the attitude of faith in the face of calamity. What could Israel do on the brink of the Red Sea? Pharaoh's army is pressing in, mountains are on both sides, and there is an impossible sea ahead. The flesh cries, "Do something!"

The flesh cries hopelessness. Can God's people dry up the sea? Level a mountain? Fight a great army without having weapons? They are in what appears to be a dreadful, frightening situation. God's people tremble - and in this hour of trembling comes a word from God. In essence:

"Stand still. Fear not. This is the hour of salvation. You are going to witness the pulling down of the foundations of a world power. But in the same hour, I will fight for you. Hold your peace - be still and see my works."

Beloved, my warning is just one voice among many who are saying the same thing. We may all tremble for a season, but those who truly know God's Word will be quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit. We will be baptized with a great peace - a supernatural quietness - which will be a tremendous witness to the fearful multitudes.

In Christ,
David Wilkerson

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With no regard to the exegetical context Mr. Wilkerson invented the unbiblical doctrine of “feeding Jesus” (Jesus Himself said that His food is to do the will of the One who sent Him) and essentially blabbed mindlessly a line of biblically unfounded rubbish in its purest form.

Here is the false erronious teaching.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/spiritsong/feeding.html

http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=3392&commentView=itemComments

http://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/145768/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/Is_there_any/David_Wilkersons_latest.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKAOFTwsdgo

Here is a brief video clearly demonstrating the failure of a very specific prophecy from the 1970s. Notice in this prophecy that he says emphatically that God himself told Wilkerson to make these statements and that this prophecy was given in the spirit. And yet, within three years of this supposed prophecy, the very opposite thing happened.

1 comment:

intohisfullness said...

Greetings brother, I have a problem with David Wilkerson due to his association and involvement with the Pentecostal movement, which may explain his mis-giving prophecies. Shortly after I met the Lord privately in my room without a Bible and no other person present, this was back in 1978, I ended up at a Pentecostal church, seeking out other Christians, and through that choice, due to me being a babe in Christ, (I had no clue regarding false movements, which Pentecostal beliefism is) I got caught up into all sorts of "hyper faith" systems and belief's. Due to my ignorance, and let me tell you it cost me much.
This is leading up to why I don't put much trust in Pastor Wilkerson due to the Pentecostal influences, which I do firmly believe was NOT a movement founded by or started by the Lord and His Holy Spirit, look at what type of fruit has come of it. It has lead into some of the most outrageous and wicked teachings which are of the devil. When I read my Bible and the Lord states that anyone who prophesies and it does not come to pass, they are false and we are not to follow or listen. I just obey and let them go, I paid a price due to "emotionalism" so I'd rather obey and separate than trying to "give the benefit of the doubt". I've done that more times than I should, but by God's grace, He has taught me to stand firm and stand strong according to His Word, and not any emotional connections. It is sad, and I did admire him once many, many, years ago and was housed at Teen Challenge for a couple of months after my re-birth, but I saw problems with Teen Challenge even way back then, and eventually was asked to leave.
In His Eternal Love......